Conversation about Race with Rokki Bonner (Bonus Interlude)


“I want to believe that silence is violence.” — Rokki Bonner

In the 2nd interlude episode, Kit chats with Rokki Bonner, a founder of Fit to Navigate, a social enterprise that provides wellness education, to cultivate wellbeing for women in and out of the prison system while creating a path to entrepreneurship and sustainability.

Rokki is also a host of Mind-Body Gem conversational podcast and Kit’s personal trainer!

Kit and Rokki discuss the double pandemic time we are in, particularly about social injustice, racism, and what you should do to fight against it. Tune in and find out Rokki’s experience with racism on the Ohio State University, what are the fundamentals of anti-racism, what is an ideal ally, what are the challenges of being an Afro-American in the wellness industry, and much more!

What you will hear in this episode:

  • 00:46 – Why Kit decided to record a BONUS interlude episode
  • 03:18 – When you can expect new podcast episodes and how you will find out about it
  • 06:24 – Rokki’s background
  • 12:16 – Rokki’s experience with racism on the Ohio State University
  • 15:14 – Kit’s high school and college experience in the States as an Asian
  • 19:06 – Anti-racism 101 and what YOU should do!
  • 25:30 – Is this racist illness strong enough to wake us and bring changes?
  • 27:59 – Rokki’s ideal ally
  • 30:22 – A person of love and what it means
  • 33:28 – Challenges of being an Afro-American in the wellness industry
  • 39:03 – Rokki’s closing words of wisdom

Let’s Connect!

Fit to Navigate on Social:

Netflix Movies:

YouTube Video:

  • Jane Elliot

Recommended books:

  • The New Jim Crow by Dr. Michelle Alexander
  • Race Matters – Cornell West
  • Speaking Treason Fluently Anti-Racist Reflections From An Angry White Male -Tim Wise
  • White Fragility: Why it’s so hard for White People to Talk about Racism – Robin Diangelo
  • Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race -Reni Eddo-Lodge
  • So you want to talk about race – Ijeoma Oluo
  • How to Be An Antiracist – Ibram X. Kendi
  • Stamped from the Beginning -Ibram X. Kendi
  • Racism Beginners Guides: Alana Lentin
  • In The Matter of Color: Race & The American Legal Process: The Colonial Period – A.
  • Leon Higgonbotham, Jr.
  • Before the Mayflower – Jerome Bennett
  • The Color of Law – A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America –
  • Richard Rothstein
  • Black Rage -William H. Grier & Price M. Cobbs
  • Black Like Me- John Howard Griffin
  • Black Robes, White Justice – Bruce Wright
  • Plural but Equal – Harold Cruse